• Grace revies Robbymac's book, "Post-charismatic?" – with the superb news that it's now shipping in the US and not just Canada.

    if you've been through charismatic and pentecostal faith worlds, Rob provides a very helpful trip through history and into the near future.

  • Bart Campolo's response to the series on race and new monasticism: "His message to the New Monastics then, is that they shouldn’t beat themselves up for living in monochromatic—and more importantly mono-class—communities, as long as they are actively pursuing meaningful, authentic relationships with friends and neighbors beyond those communities. In his view, the goal is authentic interrelation—not integration—so that it’s OK to maintain predominantly white and predominantly black institutions, churches, and communities, so long as all of them relate meaningfully and authentically with one another."

    As much as I'd like that to be the case – because it would be simpler and easier for me – I think that's blarney, and that the world of cultural integration and immersion must be done life-on-life, not from the safety zone of peer groups which relate together only as collectives.

    But what are your thoughts? Wayne Park, I'm looking at you. Same with you, Echohawk-Hayashis.

  • Just what kind of pork was attached to the bailout bill that was passed today? Here ya go.. Congrats to the rum, wool and wooden arrow manufacturers; you and the illiquid banks are getting my grandkids' money.
  • Very nice. I am pretty lazy in my bw conversion in Lightroom, but need to fix that…
  • Good tips on making the most of international travel in a less-stressed way.

    Of this list, the one I'm definitely doing in my upcoming Orthodox Trail trip is staying in hostels. Three nights in a hostel in Istanbul, dorm-style, will cost about $13US/night. In Athens, $25/night. I'm really only worried about how my allergies will do in a highly smoking-friendly environment.

  • "The emerging culture of post-Christendom is characterised by seven transitions: "

    Guys, you had me at "reMonking" 🙂

    Prodigal Kiwis take a look at this paper from the Anabaptist Network.

2 responses to “★ links for 2008-10-03”

  1. wayne park Avatar

    I think he's on to something.

    I read the article w/ a similar discomfort, but I think he's right that certain people need to belong to affinity groups and the need for mother tongue churches is there.

    having said that i've known too many people who took this "undiscriminatingly" (pun intended) and used it as an excuse to not be missionary but rather comfortably reside in what I call a "ghetto-ized" religious society. and I mean it when I use the word ghetto; thinking is small, worldview is small, and even tho these people are ready to engage the world they prefer to stay in the narrow-mindedness of their ethnic religious enclaves. there's nothing missional nor commendable about that.

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  2. wayne park Avatar

    I think he's on to something.

    I read the article w/ a similar discomfort, but I think he's right that certain people need to belong to affinity groups and the need for mother tongue churches is there.

    having said that i've known too many people who took this "undiscriminatingly" (pun intended) and used it as an excuse to not be missionary but rather comfortably reside in what I call a "ghetto-ized" religious society. and I mean it when I use the word ghetto; thinking is small, worldview is small, and even tho these people are ready to engage the world they prefer to stay in the narrow-mindedness of their ethnic religious enclaves. there's nothing missional nor commendable about that.

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