Over at my friend Kedge’s blog he’s started a discussion that I think is really helpful. I recommend that you go over there and jump in, and maybe even copy your discussion thoughts into comments here.

Here’s what he’s wrestling with:

How do we know if someone (ourselves included) is spiritually mature?

How do we know if someone is growing spiritually?

What are the marks of spiritual maturity and depth?

I’m wrestling with this question and really need some help…

He goes on to make some first attempts at what we’re talking about. Of course there are no easy answers – which is why the topic is so great – but also, these are things we want to be able to measure in our selves and others (especially those of us called to leadership and pastoral work…)

Oh, Kedge has the best blog tagline ever. it’s been shortened a bit, but he’s all about “unpimping and remonking the church”. If you wanna know more, you should ask him. It’s good stuff.

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I’m Pat

Passionate about the common good, human flourishing, lifelong learning, being a good ancestor.

Things I do: Engineering leadership; Grad Instructor in spirituality, creativity, digital personhood, pilgrimage.

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